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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / preenfm2: when exiting screen saver, ignore button click until screen on

« on: February 26, 2021, 06:25:00 PM »

when i press a button to exit the screen saver, it also makes a change to the voice.  i request that any button click or turn off the knob does nothing except awaken the synth until the screen is on.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 26, 2021, 06:09:34 PM »

indeed! but i also posted about an amplitude ratio parameter of ‘fundamental (not detuned) to unison layers’.  perhaps it would be appropriate?

also the spread doesnt seem to do anything

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 24, 2021, 06:17:41 AM »

are there cc left to assign? maybe matrix destinations?

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 24, 2021, 05:05:39 AM »

oh yeah, very happy with this!  nice choice with the 2 modes too.  i think this is what preenfm2 needed.  bravo!  this thing now has donkey balls

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 24, 2021, 02:02:01 AM »

another thing that might be nice is a volume balance between the fundamental note frequency and the rest of the unison layers...  has a way of allowing unison to just flavor the effect rather than be full strength only...  there is room for one more knob!

yes this will be amazing in a layered patch!

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 24, 2021, 01:54:26 AM »

ok thats MUCH better!  this is definitely useful and makes preenfm sound updated.  im not sure spread does much tho.  its supposed to add stereo width?

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 19, 2021, 05:13:33 PM »

that was 16 layers and im not sure if they are actually random as much as just deliberately out of phase with each other.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 19, 2021, 05:58:08 AM »

ok heres an example from serum. one clip is where each layer starts at the same phase and then diverge creating a phasing sound and the next is an example of each layer starting with a random phase, creating no phasing sound.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 18, 2021, 11:58:25 PM »

one way to mitigate the phasing might be to stagger each voice, even randomly, (by less than one phase of the root)  all they need is to be out of phase i think.  actually manipulating the pitch gives a very interesting knotty warbling.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: really wish preenfm3 was aiming for something more than preenfm2

« on: February 15, 2021, 07:43:56 PM »

im saying the fm process is the same if you feed it static waveforms or animated ones, and the difference between those two is obvious.  the basic fm process will produce predictable results until you switch up the variables and throw in a z axis at the operator level.  but then a whole universe opens to the sound designer!  is it a challenge? well...  yeah!

xavier i assume you liked the idea of a challenge when you made a synth?

well thats too bad.  i love the form and size and control and would love to use a synth by an independent but i dont know if my intended goals (bass wise) can coincide with your visions of static waveforms and to justify the usb audio and midi cabling as well as desktop space, i need my gear to do more sonically.  i do think preenfm2 is a killer product if you want the type of thing it does well.  its almost a shame to pass this verdict because it really works well.  i just cant help but wish for more easy animation every time i use it.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: My PreenFM2 demo

« on: February 15, 2021, 04:40:58 AM »

yeah some of those are good typical fm tones

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: really wish preenfm3 was aiming for something more than preenfm2

« on: February 14, 2021, 11:02:17 PM »

i have them.  not iridium tho.

fm is fm.  am i wrong?  what is superior about one fm over the other?. one can be quite animated and rich with more frames while the other is only either stabby or paddy, sounds like the typical bell or tine or something on the edge of filthy but never quite gets as animated as sounds built with wavetables.  i mean you can get usable stuff from preenfm, but like the title of the thread, i wish 3 would offer a good bit more than 2 as a natural progression in the line.  it seems a wasted opportunity for the only incentive to buy 3 to be everything but the synth engine because that part is the same as 2.  you can load basic waveforms into any of those synths and get a very similar result to preenfm.  one has more ‘operators’ but who is a genius programmer and uses all 6 operators in their patches?  more operators does not make a superior sound imho especially if you can use a synth multitimbrally

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: compile preenfm3 sources

« on: February 14, 2021, 07:08:56 PM »

richer filter algorithms would go a long way towards a better overall sound.  maybe there is enough cpu now for upgraded filters?  other distortions etc

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: really wish preenfm3 was aiming for something more than preenfm2

« on: February 14, 2021, 06:58:05 PM »

not to mention, those who do it this way are not mixing waves together that dont produce a nice tone, and im not suggesting you should.  its usually waves that are reminiscent of simple waves that work the best btw.  its also much easier to modulate a sine like carrier with a harmonically rich modulator.  of course the other parts of the synth architecture are important to the result as well.  fm these days is used with modulation, filters and distortions and effects to make something that goes beyond simple fm as weve known it since the late 70s. 

btw dissonance and noise are a good thing, you dont agree?

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: really wish preenfm3 was aiming for something more than preenfm2

« on: February 14, 2021, 06:48:07 PM »

this is how argon8 does it.  this is how virus does it.  this is how serum does it.  this is how literally every eurorack module does it.  this is how mc707 does it.  this is how blofeld and every other waldorf does it.  im sure theres many others.  shall i go on?  have you just not been paying attention?  if youre an old fart, just wait a few years and then youll want this mojo too.  its probably just not on your radar yet but have patience.  or maybe you dont listen to current music?