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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 10, 2021, 12:55:57 AM »

I thought about that too. But if i don't include 1 it seems it's free for other instrument.
Could be "1+2-5" but takes space.

but "global midi" is not only reserved for MPE, so even if you don't have MPE enabled you can still have it enabled and use it.
and in reverse you could still use channel 1 for another sound with limited options i guess (no pitchbend, no aftertouch, but simple note on and off should not affect the MPE voices)

what about (1)2-5?

i use a self-made midi bass controller, that supports MPE since my latest update :-) but i plan on getting a LinnStrument if i can find one second-hand and thus a bit cheaper...

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 09, 2021, 05:22:43 PM »

i tested it briefly and it works very well, this is great and makes creating sounds for MPE controllers so much easier!

a couple of remarks:

-i would suggest to put AT MPE PB MPE and CC#74 together, since they all belong mainly to MPE, seems strange to have random in between in the menu.

-i am not sure we even need a distinction between AT MPE and non MPE AT, are there any controllers that have both? like general aftertouch and poly aftertouch on the voices? maybe you can make them one, so some patches will "work" out of the box.

-the midi channel showing in the instrument tab is a bit confusing, if i set an instrument to 4 voices i get 1-5, but of course i only have 4 voices, shouldn't it read 2-5? 1 is always reserved for general modulation.

lastly it would be killer to have unison available, but i know that in its current implementation this is not possible (since it requires mono sounds and you use additional voices to do the unison fx)

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 08, 2021, 07:24:24 AM »

Thanks Xavier for all your work. I will be able to check it out this weekend...

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 05, 2021, 03:26:59 PM »

Unison would still be nice, but poly unison... So not sure that works...
Maybe look at vital Synths code (GitHub) he seems to have found a really clever (read CPU friendly) unison mode that could be implemented polyphonically

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 05, 2021, 03:22:43 PM »

I think voice bend replaces glide in MPE, so no need for that. Also mono makes no sense with MPE i guess.

Arp i am not sure, haven't used it on the preenfm3. What prevents it from working on MPE?

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 05, 2021, 03:20:21 PM »

Nice!

But how do you discern the two ranges?

I.e. global bend is set to 12 semitones, to bend chords up and down and voice bend is set to 48 semitones to allow gliding of individual notes...

Voice bend is more often used as a way to play legato glides in a polyphonic context. (Actually one of the reasons MPE was developed)

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 05, 2021, 03:04:46 PM »

Global midi channel was still useful to me, to switch patches on all instruments via a single program change, but it is an edge case I guess

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 05, 2021, 02:59:35 PM »

That would be absolutely awesome!

There is also cc74 (per channel) for timbre if you wanna go fancy.

Also aftertouch becomes poly in MPE as well (since pressure is per voice,i.e. note)

Some controllers also send a release velocity, that could be a matrix source.

Keep in mind that with MPE you have a voice pitchbend and a global on channel one, so you need two different matrix sources for that. Maybe MPE-Bend could be added with support for up to 48 semitones

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / "proper" MPE support for preenfm3

« on: April 05, 2021, 11:26:13 AM »

it would be great to have more proper MPE support on preenfm3.

what would be needed?

an instrument can be set to MPE which would enable the following (ideally):

receives midi on selected channels (2-(x<=16).

receives pitchbend on those channels which affects only the notes that sounded on that channel. usually the pitchbend for this "note pitchbend" is set to 48 semitones, but 12 24 and 36 is also possible.

i think that is all.

this would greatly reduce the setup time for MPE instruments and would allow us MPE-peoples to use the limiter etc. properly.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: February 22, 2021, 10:34:37 AM »

Great discussion! Will you remerge the stuff to pfm3 (phase offset etc.)

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: My PreenFM2 demo

« on: February 15, 2021, 11:45:40 AM »

Nice, would you mind sharing a few of those presets? In particular around 3:12

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: really wish preenfm3 was aiming for something more than preenfm2

« on: February 14, 2021, 09:43:39 PM »

Sounds like what you are after is not a FM synth, but a standard wavetables or substraction synth with the ability to FMing the two or three main oscillators. this is how serum and blofeld do it. serum and blofeld are no FM synth a, they just have the ability to phase modulate one oscillators phase with the output of another oscillator.
Not the same thing really.

That being said, I would love a serum/massive/vital as hw synth, but I doubt preenfm3 will be it. Maybe waldorf iridium? Or as you mentioned a blofeld if you are on a budget.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: "Slightly" off topic: RoboVox accompany for the preen...

« on: February 06, 2021, 11:04:24 PM »

Please do!

Is it based on LPC? It sounds different....

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: mod destination fdbk does not map well

« on: January 15, 2021, 06:27:57 PM »

Makes sense! I meant to write 16, was tired.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Pfm2 : unison discussion

« on: January 13, 2021, 08:34:11 PM »

i don't think your criticism is at the right place here. xavier is a single person doing this! no reason to be so "hateful"...

btw. there are many synth companies that sell synths that are no longer actively maintained, even if there are bugs in the firmware...xavier always had open ears to such reports and tried to fix those.

 nice to hear that you found your synth, happy patching with the virus!