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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Unison parameter

« on: December 27, 2020, 10:36:15 AM »

A small suggestion for unison, it would be nice to have a third option, Volume spread or similar...

It would do the following:

The main voice (on uneven voice counts) would have full volume and the others
Would decrease by a factor. So for example with a factor of 0.2 and five voices, the middle voice would be at Volume 1 the two left and right at 0.8 and the two furthest from the middle would be at 0.6 Volume. This would increase the spreading fx, and allow for more natural sounding detune fx, since you can more clearly hear the main voice. With even voice counts simply set the middle two choices to the same Volume.

I hope it is a clear explanation

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 26, 2020, 09:14:55 PM »

No I would leave glide off by default. But I would enable the bounce back to a previously held key and the non retriggering of the adsr in mono.

I get the feeling that for you glide, adsr triggering etc. are somehow related to each other, but they are really separate.

You might want a mono sound with no glide, but still no retriggering adsr on over lapping notes and most definitely it should bounce back to the pitch of the least recently used key when you release one.

So the golden solution would be settings for mono mode:

Glide off/on/overlap
Adsr retrigger: on/off
Note priority: last/highest/lowest (but for this you need a buffer)

This gives the most freedom, but I get that pfm3 is not a mono synth primarily.

As for the missing notes:

I will try to find a pattern, and a way for you to reproduce it.

I think it happens when I have more then two keys held down, but I will investigate further...

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 26, 2020, 04:20:18 PM »

Thanks for the clear explanation.
I played a little with the synth, I never got a hanging note!
This is a great improvement, thanks!

As for the mono handling of multiple notes, is there a reason it depends on glide?

You could turn on all of this simply if a patch is set to mono independently of glide, no?

I still get some missing notes and I guess it happens, when more then two notes are on. Would you consider a buffer for mono handling? It could contain maybe the last 5 notes...

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 26, 2020, 11:49:15 AM »

Out of curiosity, what happens if I held down more then two keys in mono mode?

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 26, 2020, 11:34:08 AM »

Could well be! I just browsed assume presets, while trying to make hanging notes will check again. Interesting approach, with the glide enabling held and released keys. Does it also prevent the adsr from firing on every new note? So just fire the adsr on non overlapping notes?

Will report back.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 26, 2020, 10:36:14 AM »

Do you have a sort of buffer for the last played notes in mono and unison mode?

I have to check again later, but maybe that is the issue in mono playing.

What i mean:

If I press more then one note in mono mode, the latest (or highest, some synths have an option for that) will sound. If I release one key, the pitch should jump back to the one key that is still held, even if there is no new note on command...

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 26, 2020, 12:40:00 AM »

well well...

this fixes my hanging notes! and it makes sense, since when i slide on my "bass" a lot of short notes get sent after each other (which i slur with a little glide on overlapping notes)

there is a slight problem now when i play in mono or unison mode.

if i play fast lines with rather short notes some don't get played.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 25, 2020, 01:40:29 AM »

Out of curiosity, what is your midi bass control that acts as a USB host ?

Do you also have hanging notes if you do the same thing through Din5 ?
Would be great if you can save to a midi file the reproduces the problem. (Or an pure data patch ?)

it is a bass midi controller made from a teensy 3.6 board that acts as a usb-host. it has a 8-port hub connected as a floor unit where i can connect synths to it.

will try with din5 and report back.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 24, 2020, 09:53:48 PM »

One thing I observed:

On every other synth I use, if I ever get a hanging note, hitting it again will unstuck it, since the note off will reset that note, no matter how many ons came in before. On pfm3 this does not work. I think most synths use an array of bools [128] in size and every midi note gets a 1 or 0 depending if there was a note on or off at that pitch... Don't know if that makes sense in the pfm3 case, will look a the code later

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 24, 2020, 09:47:02 PM »

Will try asap. This brings me to the next question, what are the steps to compile  the firmware on Linux? So I can test stuff quicker, once it's up on GitHub

I think I once sent you a PD test patch for hanging notes on the pfm2

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / [fixed in v0.102] Hanging notes...pfm3

« on: December 24, 2020, 11:34:45 AM »

Xavier, I have quite a lot of hanging notes on my preenfm3 with my midi bass controller. I know it sends a lot of midi data (down the usb port, it acts as a host) but it works reliably with a waldorf pulse 2, a blofeld, a moog Minitaur and all axoloti stuffi built. Would you consider looking at the midi code in axoloti for example? It is open source built on a "similar" hardware and as I said rock solid.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: u.i. name entry suggestion

« on: December 22, 2020, 12:05:54 PM »

All good, thanks! It was indeed a silence value of 1

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: u.i. name entry suggestion

« on: December 21, 2020, 11:27:06 AM »

To the right of course, silly me. But otherwise as I wrote

Btw. I am having lots of fun patching here...

Some crazier modulation destinations could come in handy for fx sounds, but I am not sure how easy those would be to add...

Also, it seems arp on/off is not part of a preset, right? Is there a reason for this?

And, is env2 broken? It didn't modulate anything when I tried, but maybe my usage was wrong

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / [added in v0.102] u.i. name entry suggestion

« on: December 20, 2020, 10:23:06 PM »

when i have to "type" in names for patches i have one suggestion that would make the workflow faster i think.

leave everything as is and on the sixth button (which is free at the time) implement the function go one position to the left. (the same as turning encoder one clockwise)

this would allow to write in names much quicker, one hand could stay on encoder 4, the other hand would select upper and lowercase etc. and advance a position. if you need to correct you can still scroll back with encoder 1.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: [Added in v0.101] poly pressure

« on: December 20, 2020, 09:31:24 PM »

it is indeed working fine on 0.101. nice!