1.00 : finally

[martindunne]

yes only occurs when mix is set to 0.00, if it is set to 0.10 then the second note does sound but very very quietly.

[Xavier]

yes only occurs when mix is set to 0.00, if it is set to 0.10 then the second note does sound but very very quietly.

Thanks, i'll take a look.
Seems like the "Free env 1" is not restarted with the new note.

[martindunne]

if this helps it only happens from firmware 1.B11 onwards
and it happens when one key is pressed as other is released

[Xavier]

if this helps it only happens from firmware 1.B11 onwards

Really ?
Yes this will help a lot. thanks

[kuzma_p]

Xavier, hello!

Could you make increment for p1-4 0.01 and not 0.02?

[Xavier]

What i like with 0.02 is that it's easy to go from one extreme to the other in one move. Usefull in live situation.
In what case do you need the increment to be 0.01 ?

[kuzma_p]

You can already go from one extreme to another by pressing Inst, isn't it?   
Then i think  perfomance controls should have higher resolution.

Main case for me is experimentation.
For example, yesterday i found interesting feature for sculpting and exploring timbers with perfomance controls. Say, i assigned p1 to modulator pitch by 10 and to carrier by -10. p2 i assigned to IM1. With this setup i could easily find needed ratios and interesting sounds, but 0.02 resolution hampers a bit, because pitch is stepping through 2 or 3 semitones.

Offtop: There is also an idea, that  p1-4 values could be baked back into parameters they modulate by pushing several buttons simultaneously. Then p1-4 values should be reset to 0.00. This could really speeden up patch creation IMO
 

[Xavier]

You can already go from one extreme to another by pressing Inst, isn't it?   

Yep right 

Main case for me is experimentation.
For example, yesterday i found interesting feature for sculpting and exploring timbers with perfomance controls. Say, i assigned p1 to modulator pitch by 10 and to carrier by -10. p2 i assigned to IM1. With this setup i could easily find needed ratios and interesting sounds, but 0.02 resolution hampers a bit, because pitch is stepping through 2 or 3 semitones.

What was the matrix multiplier ? doesn't that work if you make it smaller ?

Offtop: There is also an idea, that  p1-4 values could be baked back into parameters they modulate by pushing several buttons simultaneously. Then p1-4 values should be reset to 0.00. This could really speeden up patch creation IMO
 

I don't understand.... 

EDITED : OK i got it... would be very nice but difficult to implement. I have to think more about it.

[martindunne]

Hi Xavier received my cerb40 II today many thanks. Dont seem to understand   "option to have independent row for each of the 4 instruments " in the new firmware tho can you clarify what it is and how you use it pls.

cheers

[pld]

"option to have independent row for each of the 4 instruments "

There's a new setting ("unlinked edit") to change the behaviour when you press INST:
Default is the way it has been, i.e. when you press INST, you edit the same parameters for each instrument ("linked").
With the new option, the last-used row is stored per instrument, so you can have inst 1: arp user pattern, inst 2: fx, inst 3: matrix..., and edit them independently ("unlinked").

If that makes sense

Related: The case when you press INST while editing a user pattern, and the next instrument doesn't have one active, should also be fixed.

[kuzma_p]

Main case for me is experimentation.
For example, yesterday i found interesting feature for sculpting and exploring timbers with perfomance controls. Say, i assigned p1 to modulator pitch by 10 and to carrier by -10. p2 i assigned to IM1. With this setup i could easily find needed ratios and interesting sounds, but 0.02 resolution hampers a bit, because pitch is stepping through 2 or 3 semitones.

What was the matrix multiplier ? doesn't that work if you make it smaller ?

Nope. Multiplication by 10 gives -1...1 octave range with p1. For example, if i want to make 5 semitone shift (perfect fourth interval) i need to turn p1 to 0.33, but i can't do that because of 0.02. I can achieve only 0.34 which causes flanging

[Xavier]

Thanks... I see.
Also 0.01 increment will be more consistent with other parameters. I'll change that.

[martindunne]

There's a new setting ("unlinked edit") to change the behaviour when you press INST:
Default is the way it has been, i.e. when you press INST, you edit the same parameters for each instrument ("linked").
With the new option, the last-used row is stored per instrument, so you can have inst 1: arp user pattern, inst 2: fx, inst 3: matrix..., and edit them independently ("unlinked").

If that makes sense

Yes. thank you PLD nice feature.

Still having this problem with env 1

using HARMOSYNTH
if i set all mix to 0.00 and
matrix 1 to env1 >1.00>mix* and
env1 to 3.00 0.00 1.00 1.00

if i then play a note and then a second while releasing the first the second will not sound.

it works as far as firmware 1.B10 but not after, hope that makes enough sense

Many thanks

[Xavier]

Still having this problem with env 1

using HARMOSYNTH
if i set all mix to 0.00 and
matrix 1 to env1 >1.00>mix* and
env1 to 3.00 0.00 1.00 1.00

if i then play a note and then a second while releasing the first the second will not sound.

it works as far as firmware 1.B10 but not after, hope that makes enough sense

Many thanks

Yes i finally understood what happens... There were a bug before 1.B11. The FreeEnv1 never entered Release phase. (if release >= 1.0).
Now it does. And the release state that is triggered by the note off of you first note kill the sound.
Does that make sense ?

I suspect with 1.B10 the behaviour will appear if FreeEnv1 release < 1.0.

Maybe FreeEnv1&2 should not enter release state if any note is still playing. I have to think about that.

[martindunne]

yes that makes sense. i was just after some airy pad type sounds and stumbled upon it.

thanks