[fixed in 0.96] PreenFM3 DX7 problem (0.94)

[Megalomidiac]

I don't know if it is a bug or I am missing something:

If I load a DX7 preset, there is no sound at first.
I have to go to the voices menu and turn them from 1 to 2 (or higher) to hear something.
If I then turn it back to 1, there now will be sound (1 voice of course then).

But I cannot get polyphony on the DX7 sounds if I turn up the voice number. It will be just monophonic all the time.

This problem does not occure in normal mode. If I start an empty preset, I can turn up the voice number and it will be polyphonic.

[Xavier]

If I load a DX7 preset, there is no sound at first.
I have to go to the voices menu and turn them from 1 to 2 (or higher) to hear something.
If I then turn it back to 1, there now will be sound (1 voice of course then).

That's weird.
How many voices do you have for the other instruments ? Are they at max ?
Does it help if you decrease the number of voices for other instrument ?

But I cannot get polyphony on the DX7 sounds if I turn up the voice number. It will be just monophonic all the time.

Good catch, there's a problem with the DX7 sysex importer.
It sets the number of voice to 1 in the mixer and the sound type to MONO in the Editors (Edit->FM->Voice).
Change the later to poly to enable polyphony.

I'll take a look to have this done automatically.

[Xavier]

The fix will be in v095.
Keep on reporting bugs you find, thanks

[Megalomidiac]

Thank you, the workaround with Edit->FM->Voice works.

I have reduced the other instrument's voices to 0 and then can set instrument 1 up to 16 voices.
But when loading a DX7 preset,  instrument 1's voices are reduced to 1 again and it won't sound until I set the voice numbers up (and may then reduce it to 1 again).

And I found another little bug: If you are in the Engine Menu and the voice is set to poly you should not play a chord while setting Poly->Mono.
One note will be hold then and does not even stop if you play and release the note again. Maybe there should be send a NoteOff before changing from poly to mono and vice versa.

[Megalomidiac]

The bug with no voice playing occurs also if you use the random function, by the way;)

And another suggestion: If you are in FM edit mode, you can step through the operators.
But say you chose an algorithm with 3 OPs, the non used OPs 4-6 will also be visible.
I would find it faster and more intuitive if they would not be seen.

[Xavier]

The bug with no voice playing occurs also if you use the random function, by the way;)

yes, thanks.
I think the randomizer should not change at all the poly/mono + current number of voices.
I'll fix that.

And another suggestion: If you are in FM edit mode, you can step through the operators.
But say you chose an algorithm with 3 OPs, the non used OPs 4-6 will also be visible.
I would find it faster and more intuitive if they would not be seen.

OK i see what you mean.

[Megalomidiac]

I have not only to complain.
Had finally time to noodle around with the PFM3, made a simple patch and played a little track.
Sounds really good and is much more intuitive than the PFM2.

I came very fast to results and the connections between the operators are really good to see. Much less to click until the success

[Xavier]

I have not only to complain.
Had finally time to noodle around with the PFM3, made a simple patch and played a little track.
Sounds really good and is much more intuitive than the PFM2.

I came very fast to results and the connections between the operators are really good to see. Much less to click until the success

Thanks for the feedback. 

But please, continue posting what you find could be better. That really helps.
If i agree, i'll fix it, if i don't i'll explain why....

[Xavier]

The bug with no voice playing occurs also if you use the random function, by the way;)

And another suggestion: If you are in FM edit mode, you can step through the operators.
But say you chose an algorithm with 3 OPs, the non used OPs 4-6 will also be visible.
I would find it faster and more intuitive if they would not be seen.

Could you try this firmware :
[firmware removed, i'll publish a 0.95 today]
And let me know if that fixes the different problems.

It fixes the number of voices for sure.
But i don't underrstand the mute  problem after loading, so i hope it will be fixed at the same time.

[Xavier]

Please try 0.95 and let me know how it goes
https://github.com/Ixox/preenfm3/releases

Voices are not modified anymore with randomize and DX7 import.

I still don't know why you cannot play any note after loading a DX7 preset.
I hope it will fix that too.

EDITED : try 0.96 

[Megalomidiac]

Thanks I will look at it, but unfortunately I am away from home until Sunday.

[Megalomidiac]

All mentioned complains are solved with 0.96, thank you again!