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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Operator mixer

« on: August 27, 2023, 03:02:53 PM »

You can hold down menu while turning encoders for enveloppe

Can you please write these into a list? There's so many hidden button combinations, that make the PFM so much more usable!

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: PREENFM3 CONTROL PANEL CONNECTION PROBLEM

« on: August 16, 2023, 02:48:41 PM »

The straight edge of the LED should go towards negative. The rounded side towards positive

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: paraphonic effects

« on: August 13, 2023, 12:08:10 AM »

itiiswatitiis

I guess I'll be getting an FX pedal (or two )

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: paraphonic effects

« on: August 12, 2023, 04:08:16 PM »

Taking the following from the other thread, because I think it fits here better:

I have just had another thought: Currently, the delay effect resides in the paraphonic FX section of each timbre. What about moving that into a global kind of effect, just like the reverb? You'd have much more memory available (six times the memory to be precise!), so the effect could sound for much longer, with less downsampling. I love the global reverb, but the delay is just too short, and too downsampled for my taste. The only thing I'd imagine using it for is slap-back delay, but that's just not what I love delay for.

I think I also understand, why the delay effect sounds so weak and barely noticeable. It only delays the tail of the sound, but the initial attack, which is what you want the delay effect for, is just never present.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Suggestions and Bug reports

« on: August 11, 2023, 11:18:02 AM »

I have just had another thought: Currently, the delay effect resides in the paraphonic FX section of each timbre. What about moving that into a global kind of effect, just like the reverb? You'd have much more memory available (six times the memory to be precise!), so the effect could sound for much longer, with less downsampling. I love the global reverb, but the delay is just too short, and too downsampled for my taste. The only thing I'd imagine using it for is slap-back delay, but that's just not what I love delay for.

Also I don't know if this is a realistic thought, considering the stage of development, but I think the effects would in general benefit of more memory, so I think it would be nice, if you were able to just disable featuresets you don't use, to make room for more effect memory. I for example don't use the scales system (or the whole SCALA menu for that matter), and now with proper DAW sequencing, I also don't need the sequencer at all. I never used the PFM as a midi CC interface, so that whole thing could also go out the window. I also don't use the User CC menu (what is that even for?).

If I had the option to disable those in favor of more performance overall, I'd do it.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Your setups

« on: July 31, 2023, 03:11:02 PM »

I currently have a keystep pro sequencing my TubeOhm Jeannie and PreenFM3. I plan to get the KSoloti when it comes out, so I have access to high quality reverb and delay (the PFM has terrible delay, but pretty bonkers reverb, and my Jeannie has just all garbage FX)

I'm also hoping that I'll have enough money for a Töröö at some point. I'm lacking subtractive synth timbres. One is almost too few ._.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Suggestions and Bug reports

« on: July 28, 2023, 05:58:11 PM »

Oh two other things I noticed just now:
1. The USB-MIDI option in the settings is ignored. UM works even if disabled
2. It would be nice if the PFM also sent all the received UM data out its corresponding MIDI port. I don't own a UM interface and was hoping I could use the PFM for that

Edit: I have also noticed some more issues:
1. The PFM crashing while accidentally turning down the voices to 0 is still a thing. I think it might be related to doing that while release is still going
2. Simultaneously playing notes over MIDI and UM causes stuck notes on the instrument voice controlled via MIDI, but the stuck notes are taken from the UM side

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Patch sharing!

« on: July 16, 2023, 02:53:39 PM »

I thought that it would definitely help this community, if we were to share our (best?) patches, because there are only a few, tech-demo-esque default patches. Why not bring together what can be used much more easily?

I'll start: https://chonkyrabbit.eu/files/_share/patches/

While I'm at it, I might as well share what I did with them: https://chonkyrabbit.eu/music.php

Please share your patches as well! No matter if they are bad in your opinion. All patches are interesting!

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: July 15, 2023, 06:31:17 PM »

You can use MENU + Encoder in the mixer volume page to change other linked instruments at the same time.
"Linked" = output on same DAC.

That works exactly how I imagined it, thank you so much!

I also have another feature request ( ):
I'd like to have more global FX available, for example a global 8 band eq would be amazing for the chill-/synthwave feel. I don't think that would use much performance

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: July 10, 2023, 03:55:57 PM »

Yes I did try the compressor. It does not always help though.

It would be a bit less annoying to deal with clipping if there was a way to change the volume of all instruments simultaneously (just allowing you to keep the mix ratio but enabling you to decrease the combined volume until all clipping is gone.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: July 09, 2023, 10:53:45 AM »

The issue is that it's very unclear what actually causes the clipping. You can have all six instruments output a >50% volume signal, but none of which cause clipping, even together.

Now there is one signal that really just gets up to 50% and that suddenly causes clipping.

It's hard to predict when something causes clipping. And when you have clipping, it's unclear what causes it in the first place. It's very frustrating.

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: July 07, 2023, 08:29:49 PM »

I think it would make much more sense if it was on a per-instrument and not per-output basis. I only use 1-2 currently because I have no pedals or need to change my audio routing.
And even if I had that, I would just use 1-2 to dump out everything that does not need further processing. I don't think it makes much sense to show the output pair

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: July 05, 2023, 08:00:14 PM »

I have another suggestion: I often run into clipping and I don't know where it's coming from. Instead of always showing "CLIPPING 1" it should instead use the number for showing which instrument is clipping.

In my case, the volume bar is seemingly always below even the white level, and yet it's still clipping (is it the global reverb maybe?)

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: June 25, 2023, 12:09:41 PM »

I'm also once again coming across some issues.

I have attached a bank that I'm having issues with. The first patch has all envelopes coming down to 0, but for some weird reason, OP5 does not do that. I have checked everything I could come up with, but it just does not mute completely. What remains is always it's waveform.

The second patch has another issue, that I've recently come across too. I can't find a solution for it. It's a kind of click (volume suddenly drops for a short moment) in the sound, where there should not be any. Yet again I have checked everything I could come up with, but found nothing. It's seemingly not an issue with resonance.

Here is the bank (patches are named in a way that should make it a bit more obvious what the issue is: https://chonkyrabbit.eu/files/_share/ZBUG.BNK

Any idea about those?

Edit: I just noticed that I found the button combo that takes screenshots of the display. Interesting.

Edit 2: WAT a restart fixed both of the issues I mentioned above... Still worth investigating. It's not nice that patches can just break at random

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preenfm2 and preenfm3 / Re: Two suggestions, two bugs and a question

« on: June 24, 2023, 02:06:13 PM »

I just had another thought: If parameter locks were a thing, you could also merge instruments. If you had some tool that could merge sequences (where they don't overlap) and then uses parameter locks to change one patch to another, you could shrink down for example two percussion tracks (seq: 1 .. 2 .. 1 .. 2) to one, that just modulates between patches. It might come at increased cpu usage, but it shouldn't be a ton more resource intensive than running two patches at the same time.

Is that possible?

Edit: I'm also thinking that being able to record pitch bend could be really useful for some more funky stuff