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odayan

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Operator mixer
« on: August 27, 2023, 05:14:16 AM »
Preenfm3 here. Is there any operator mixer that I dont know of? I can change the levels at the level page but single knob for all the adsr would be wonderful.

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2023, 11:24:08 AM »
Preenfm3 here. Is there any operator mixer that I dont know of? I can change the levels at the level page but single knob for all the adsr would be wonderful.
Thank you!

You can hold down menu while turning encoders for enveloppe
It will change all operators of same type at the same time (carrier / modulator).
(Value will be green instead of yellow when modified to show other values are modified at the same time.)

You can also use Long press "-" to copy ADSR value, and then long press "+" to paste in an other operator.

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2023, 03:02:53 PM »
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You can hold down menu while turning encoders for enveloppe

Can you please write these into a list? There's so many hidden button combinations, that make the PFM so much more usable!

odayan

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2023, 05:02:21 AM »
Hi Xavier,

Thank you! I already spotted that trick by pushing the buttons :)

What I was trying to say is a mixer page where you can adjust the levels of each operator whether it may be carrier or modulator. It is perfectly doable as there are 6 knobs and 6 operators (wonderful design). It would add a big flexibility to the unit and decrease the learning curve a lot... I think it is one of the most prominent features of Korg Opsix.

Is there such a feature at FM3 or something similiar not that I know of?

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2023, 09:34:42 PM »
Oh OK

No there's no such page.
There's no "level operator" in the preenfm.

Modulation use MI (modulation index).
You have a page with all MI values (modulation index).
=> A same modulator operator can have to different MI to 2 different lower operator : see algo 1.
You have 3=>2 and 3=>1.

And you have a page with MIX level for carrier operator.

They're both in 2 different pages.
The number of MI and carrier op levels depends on the algo, so it's not very straightforward to have such a page.
It's not a 6 level to 6 knob simple mapping.

 

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2023, 04:28:02 AM »
Ok got it!! but still I'd like to hear the effect of each operator to the sound on a single page (now I'm doing it by turning the shape off and on at each osc page).

Maybe I can map it to my Digitakt but I dont see any midi CC number for op shape. Only NRPN, and Digitakt is either CC or NRPN :'(

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2023, 08:01:05 AM »
i think all parameters should be capable of NRPN, but not vice versa...

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Re: Operator mixer
« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2023, 02:32:09 AM »
i think all parameters should be capable of NRPN, but not vice versa...

Thanks! Good to know that, I'll try with NRPN!