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gregmotorshop

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #15 on: November 22, 2012, 02:30:21 PM »
I have so much fun using PreenFM.
So you can count on me to be one of the first MK2 builder !
Don't hesitate to email some of us (at least me!) for bêta-test any new hardware.
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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #16 on: November 24, 2012, 09:53:06 PM »

Thanks..  :D
But don't hold your breath ;-)
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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2012, 05:12:00 PM »
Would it be possible to include expansion options that would potentially enable a "programmer" to be developed?  I'm in the midst of building an XT panel for one of my Shruthis and, while I was playing with the PreenFM last night, thought a batch of pots would be coo..

By the way, after finally fiddling with the PreenFM for a while last night, I gotta admit this thing is cool!  Even my "Indie, Folktronica, Art Rock, Experimental" son was amazed by the sounds.  One second it's gritty and industrial, then a quick turn of a knob or two and it's mellow and deep.

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2012, 06:03:42 AM »
An FM Synth with a full hw editor?  That's crazy!!!  ;D

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2012, 07:43:56 AM »
So the programmer madness is spreading to this forum as well...  :P
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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2012, 05:22:13 PM »
It's a disease, don't tell Frank!

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2012, 11:33:05 PM »
The question beckons: How to make a programmer that controls the FM parameters in a way that makes sense somehow? It's not uncle Bob's analog synth we're controlling. Then again, better some knobbage over none at all  :o

Bring it!
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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2012, 04:54:10 AM »
I was thinking that it could be like the Shruthi, where Xavier could provide expansion capabilities and someone else could develop the programmer.

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2012, 09:42:32 AM »

Expansion option would be great.   :D

I have to think about how to do that.
For the shruthi1, does it replace the actual surface control or is it in addition to it ?
Does the shruthi1 require a special firmware ? How do you tell it to use the surface...

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2012, 02:22:47 PM »
Both are active. There is a menu option to tell the Shruthi to use the control surface so there must be some firmware. The control surface (programmer) hooks to a series of pins on one of the Shruthi's boards.

If you Google fcd72 Shruthi XT Flickr, you can have a look at how it hooks in.

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2012, 09:31:49 AM »
http://synth.me/music-gear/brian-enos-amazing-dx7-hardware-programmer

just to give an idea of how many knobs a full fm synth programmer needs...
i think the preenfm already does a wonderful job at giving good ui acces for programming fm.
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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2012, 03:52:25 PM »
OMG, as my kids would say! Maybe there is a middle ground.

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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #27 on: December 02, 2012, 04:52:01 AM »
Here's a quick mockup for the current PreenFM.  40 knobs and 4 buttons.  I'm not sure you'd gain that much on top of the current easy to navigate editor.  Does the MidiBox support NRPN numbers?  :D


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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #28 on: December 02, 2012, 01:14:41 PM »
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Re: PreenFM mk2 : Continuing the discussion from the Mutable Instruments forum
« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2012, 09:00:04 PM »
Quote from: funkyfli on December 02, 2012, 04:52:01 AM
Here's a quick mockup for the current PreenFM.  40 knobs and 4 buttons.  I'm not sure you'd gain that much on top of the current easy to navigate editor.  Does the MidiBox support NRPN numbers?  :D



Very nice  :D Seems like you know what you're talking about  ;)
The advantage i see over the current editor is:
. oscillator AND envelope at the same time.
. The 8 encoders for the sequencer....
. The encoder to control the 12 modulator rows... better than a button.

Xavier





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